Our Ministers and Staff
Rev. Schuyler Vogel
Rev. Schuyler Vogel serves as the Senior Minister of the Fourth Universalist Society in the City of New York. He holds degrees in religion from Carleton College and Harvard Divinity School and has served as a pastor to congregations in Wisconsin and Illinois. Prior to becoming a minister, Rev. Schuyler led religious education programs in Ft. Lauderdale and Chicago with an emphasis on youth and young adult ministry and helped found the Sanctuary Boston, an emergent Unitarian Universalist community. Previously, he earned a teaching license for middle and high school social studies and grew up in the Milwaukee area.
Rev. Schuyler is available by appointment and is generally in the office between Monday and Thursday.
Rev. Jill Bowden
Rev. Jill Bowden serves as an Affiliated Minister of the Fourth Universalist Society in the City of New York. She holds degrees from Mercy College (BS in psychology), Long Island University (Master of Public Administration in health care), and Union Theological Seminary (Master of Divinity). She serves our free faith as Director of Chaplaincy Services at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. Before that, she was Director of Pastoral Care at Winthrop-University Hospital in Mineola, NY.
Previously a respiratory therapist and a health care administrator, Rev. Bowden’s background provided significant experience in bedside care and health systems leadership, growth, and management.
Jill is available for consultation and pastoral care at the direction of the Senior Minister or in his absence.
Rev. Beth Putnam
Rev. Elizabeth (Beth) Putnam serves as an affiliated community minister of the Fourth Universalist Society in the City of New York. She holds degrees in history from Wellesley College (BA) and the University of Texas at Austin (MA), and attended seminary at Union Theological Seminary in New York (MDiv). She serves as a Chaplain at VA New York Harbor Healthcare System (VA NYHHS), which she joined as a staff member after completing Chaplaincy Residencies at both Albert Einstein Hospital (Philadelphia, PA) and VA NYHHS. She has been a member of Fourth Universalist since 2002. Before being ordained by Fourth Universalist in 2008, she served as an active layperson, including serving as Board President. While growing up mostly in Rochester and Buffalo, NY, she and her husband Alex have lived in New York City for over two decades and she now considers herself a New Yorker.
Beth is available by appointment, she will generally respond to e-mail requests or messages on her home phone within one day.
Rev. Jennifer Pader
Affiliate Minister for Pastoral Care
Phone: 917-568-6390, for appointments or pastoral emergencies
Rev. Jennifer Pader has been the Affiliate Minister for Pastoral Care of the Fourth Universalist Society since 2005. Jennifer is a graduate of McGill University, Union Theological Seminary, the Hunter College School of Social Work, and the William Alanson White Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Psychoanalysis (IPPP). Rev. Pader is also an LMSW who trained as a psychiatric chaplain at Lenox Hill Hospital, a Gender Identity Counselor at the LGBT Community Center, and as a clinician at the Postgraduate Center for Mental Health. She is an adjunct lecturer at Union Theological Seminary. Jennifer specializes in community-based mental health work.
At Fourth Universalist, she is available for pastoral counseling and short-term pastoral therapy, mental health education, social service referrals and pastoral needs assessments for individuals and families.
Rev. Mark Cutolo
Rev. Mark Cutolo serves the Fourth Universalist Society as its Membership Coordinator. A born-and-raised resident of the state of New York, and a Millennial, he has both a Master of Divinity and a Master of Social Work, and in addition to working at Fourth Universalist Society, also works full-time for the City as a psychiatric social worker. Mark feels passionate about liberal religion, and the historic Universalist vision of reality in which the Eternal, who is greater than all yet present in each, is so generous, that in the end, all are loved and saved. As a fellow urbanite who strives to not get lost in the faceless masses, Mark looks forward to building spiritual community with newcomers and existing members alike, as we incarnate our common values and living tradition for the wider community and city.
Director of Religious Education
DJ Cashmere is excited to serve the families of Fourth Universalist Society as Director of Religious Education. The descendant of Catholic and Jewish immigrants from across Europe, he was born in New Jersey and raised mostly in the DC suburbs. DJ received his Bachelor’s in Theatre Arts from the University of Southern California and his Master’s in Teaching from Dominican University. DJ also studied in Germany and England before settling in Chicago, where he taught for eight years in the public school system, focusing largely on theatre and social justice. DJ will soon begin working on a second Master’s degree at New York University’s Carter Journalism Institute. He believes in fostering love, curiosity, and mindfulness, and sees his work in education as a practice of social change.
Director of Music
Gates Thomas is a New York-based composer, conductor, recording producer and performer who has worked with Paula Cole, Bobby McFerrin, Pat Metheny, Gary Burton, Jim Hall, Sadao Watanabe, and the New American Orchestra of Chicago. For two days each week Gates serves as Associate Professor of Contemporary Writing and Production at Berklee College of Music in Boston. A Davenport IA native and a product of public schools, he earned a history degree at Northwestern University. Gates is composing a modern concert setting of letters of George Washington, for which he has been recognized as a Mount Vernon Fellow at the National Library for the Study of George Washington.
Gates has been with Fourth Universalist since 2009 and directs our choir and ensembles.
Mai-Len was born and raised in New York City and grew up at Fourth Universalist. She went to Drew University and majored in Spanish and Sociology. After graduation, Mai-Len served with City Year New York and then with an international service organization called Build On to implement service learning curriculum, community service projects and after school programs in high schools within the Bronx. Mai-Len currently works full time with a college access and mentoring organization called iMentor, partnering with school guidance staff to provide college access services and mentor coaching to the 12th grade cohort.
At Fourth Universalist, Mai-Len works with our middle school and high school teens to lead our youth and our coming of age programs
Director of Administration
Phone: 212-595-1658, ex. 10
Evening Group Coordinator